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I am truly dismayed in some of the posts lately in [livejournal.com profile] childfree. It seems that there is so much negativity and hatred toward children. I may or may not have children in the future, and therefore I am childfree, by at least my definition (by theirs I would be called childless), and I do not hate children. There are plenty of people who never want to have children of their own, for their own reasons, and love kids. I may have to withdraw my membership if they continue the negativity. It is one thing to not have kids by choice, and another to applaud a woman grabbing her 3 year old daughter by the hair and dragging her to the car after running loose in a mall parking lot (or advocating the use of a permanent leash...how demeaning!). The kid is fucking 3 years old!! They're going to act like it too. It is the parent's responsibility to watch out for the child's safety and well being. If that means carrying your 3 year old while out in a parking lot because they are know to run around (as young kids do) then so be it. Hold hands tightly if need be. Be a good parent and don't be cruel or abusive to the kid like that just to get the message across. That harbors resentment and anger and could cause more bad habits in the future. Find another way of reprimanding th kid for doing that that is not hurtful, but gets the message across. Just actually do your job as a parent. Truly these hateful people have never gotten the love from a child that is so pure, and infectious. It would be good for them if they did.

Date: 3 Jul 2005 14:20 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] plunkybug.livejournal.com
The info page says that not everyone there hates kids, but it is their opinion and right to feel that way. I may very well be childfree the rest of my life, but I certainly don't hate kids. I don't understand how you can hate kids. Are they not human? Are they not what you used to be? I can understand that many have little patience for the growing up process, or the behaviour patterns, and those people tend not to have their own, but hate is so strong.

I don't get to read it that often, but when I do, it is so negative nearly all the time. I am seriously gonna put up a post and withraw my membership. I would like to find a community where people like me are there, where they don't hate children, but they don't want any of their own, at least for a while, if ever.

Date: 3 Jul 2005 15:24 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] warzau-kitten.livejournal.com
oh I know what the info page says but go back
and read...It has beena good 6 months since I read but damn all they do is GO OFF about kids in public, kids they are related to, friends having babies..
they have a nasty negative opinion and are greatly repulsed by children in general.

Date: 3 Jul 2005 15:36 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] plunkybug.livejournal.com
I will have to take some time and reread the posts, get ammo, and then post.

Date: 5 Jul 2005 04:14 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] glittergrrl69.livejournal.com
Yeah, I used to belong to a childfree page before the guy who ran it closed it down. It was good to have a place to rant about the products of bad parents. But there were so many people who were so angry, it gave the entire group a bad vibe/name.
Just a suggestion: take it easy on your withdrawl post. It's 98% likely that you won't be able to change their minds if they feel that strongly about it. Most you'll do is annoy the crap out of them and give them more ammo to be negative about. Just state your piece simply and without judgement. Even better, create your own "child-positive childfree" site and tell people about it in your withdrawl post. That way you don't have to do any finger wagging - the purpose of your group will say volumes.

Date: 5 Jul 2005 12:08 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] plunkybug.livejournal.com
I know I won't change their mind, but I want them to know why I am leaving. Heh, yeah, I could create my own community, something like: childfreenotchildhaters

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